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danikali
Okay, I recently, as some of you know, found out that I was getting glutened by roasted nuts that I have been eating for the past week! I had no idea and thought that something was really wrong since "I wasn't eating any gluten!" (I def. was!) I went home after I discovered this possible culprit, and all of the nuts that I had were dry roasted!!! The more I thought about it, the same day my symptoms started coming back were the same day I first bought the nuts and ate them!! Sheesh!

Anyway, this is the trickiest hidden gluten product that I can think of. But just to make sure that there are absolutley NO MORE MISTAKES, (at least for one straight month!!! mad.gif ), what are some of the least obvious, most common hidden sources, that you can think of......

I know I am new to this whole thing still, and I may be a little bit naive, but where does the gluten come from, what do they use exactly to dry roast nuts?

Thanks!!! biggrin.gif
Rachel--24
I think Rice Dream is "tricky". Yes, it does say its got gluten right on the carton but still...its not somewhere you'd normally look. I think unless they've done their research beforehand alot of people have probably been glutened by Rice Dream at some point. I was.
broncobux
Licking Envelopes

Bouillon Cubes

Vitamins
Jnkmnky
rice dream
twizzlers
re-shaped holiday candies... egg shaped peanut butter cups, etc
HAM
That ONE BRAND of Hot dogs... which one is it?? I forget.
danikali
Good ones! My Step-mom was trying out the diet actually (due to her having Rheumatoid Artheritis) and she just bought Rice Milk and I said, uh oh. Sorry but there's gluten in there, and I showed her the teeny tiny label.

Also, the licking envelopes is good too!
jerseyangel
QUOTE(Jnkmnky @ Jan 11 2006, 12:46 PM) *
That ONE BRAND of Hot dogs... which one is it?? I forget.


Nathan's smile.gif
watkinson
sugar free metamucil
prescription medications
gluten-free candy that you eat all the time, like Snickers, but the snack size is not gluten-free.
Foods that are in the gluten-free area, but are not gluten-free, just wheat free.
tarnalberry
interesting... all the dry roasted nuts I have had have been gluten-free. have you checked with the company on the issue?
elonwy
Yeah what brand was it? I eat dry roasted nuts all the time. Put em in stir fry's too. Yum.
Elonwy
danikali
IN a forum that I posted two days ago, someone told me that ALL dry roasted nuts are contaminated. They did make the point though that not all ROASTED nuts have gluten, but all DRY roasted nuts. What do you think?

QUOTE(Viola @ Jan 10 2006, 04:49 PM) *
No ... not all roasted nuts have gluten, just if it says DRY roasted. Also smoked almonds have gluten.

I don't have a problem with dairy, but lots do. If you can drink milk with no problems, then by all means go for it tongue.gif


Hmmmmmm........ huh.gif
gymnastjlf
QUOTE(jerseyangel @ Jan 11 2006, 12:49 PM) *
Nathan's smile.gif
QUOTE

gluten-free candy that you eat all the time, like Snickers, but the snack size is not gluten-free


I thought that Snickers was considered to be the "universal" gluten-free candy? I thought Ann Lee said that at the conference in September (at Columbia). I haven't had the bite/snack size Snickers up to this point, but if I were handed one, I would've eaten it without a second thought. Yikes! Also, with the dry roasted nuts... I'm looking at a package of Walmart (Great Value) brand dry-roasted peanuts. The ingredients are: peanuts, salt, sugar, cornstarch, maltodextrin, MSG, dried yeast, dried corn syrup, spices, natural flavor, garlic, onion powder.

And then it says Manufactured in a facility that processes products containing milk solids and tree nuts. I just got off the phone with Wal-Mart (1-800-WALMART); they said this is not a gluten-free product, but only because of cross-contamination issues. It's interesting that it doesn't mention that it's produced in a facility with wheat products, if they're worried about CC. Would you suggest I not buy GV brand again? I don't have any problems from them, but then again, I don't get noticeably ill from gluten. Is there a brand that doesn't have cross-contamination issues with their products?
danikali
Isn't that crazy that they have to put all of that stuff on nuts? All we need is salt!!
killernj13
QUOTE(danikali @ Jan 11 2006, 12:54 PM) *
IN a forum that I posted two days ago, someone told me that ALL dry roasted nuts are contaminated. They did make the point though that not all ROASTED nuts have gluten, but all DRY roasted nuts. What do you think?
Hmmmmmm........ huh.gif


I've had reactions to nuts as well - bad DH and a rash. But not all the time. So much that I went to allergist to get tested for a nut allergy. Which I don't have. It was at a time I was doing the South Beach diet and eating a ton of them. I assumed it was just from eating too many. But you make an interesting point.

I have emailed Planters so lets see it we get a response. If you can't wait for the answer this is posted on their website:

[size=4]How do I obtain allergen information for your products?
Our Consumer Affairs Representative through 1-800-323-0768 will happy to help you with any questions you have concerning allergens and our products.


Still have a question ... contact us[/size
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Rachel--24
I would think the issue with nuts would be a cross-contamination issue. I dont think ALL dry roasted nuts are contaminated...it would depend on the amnufacturing facility. Unless...of course you're eating some nuts that have other stuff in them like wheat....but that would be indicated in the ingredients.
Mahee34
twizzlers, honey glazed ham and an apple cider that used a certain spice that they only informed me of after i was sick and finally called the company....also, certain brands of swedish fish have wheat in them....the orignial brand doesn't luckily.
Jnkmnky
QUOTE(jerseyangel @ Jan 11 2006, 12:49 PM) *
Nathan's smile.gif


Yes, Nathan's.... I hate Nathan's. What the &%&^* do they need wheat in Hot Dogs for??? Killed my laid back attitude towards bbqs in the summer. We had a Bon fire a few weeks ago, and my friend brought those freaking Nathan's. I was like, "WHOA!"... Keep 'em offa the grill till my kid gets a Boar's Head hot dog done up. Just really burns me up. dry.gif
mookie03
westsoy soymilk

candies (like see's)

chicken broth

frozen foods, like veggie burgers (most brands)

dry roasted nuts (they give them out on an airplane!)

candy corn (some brands)

certain cheeses, meats (like deli)

basically any food that it seems like wouldnt need gluten for any purposes... I mean if it can taste just as good w/o the gluten, why put it in?!

I'm confused about the snickers thing though- i thought the fun size were gluten-free in US?? Am i wrong? And what about the minis? great topic by the way- interesting and so useful!!!
Viola
Okay, this is from the brand new Canadian Celiac Ass. Pocket Dictionary.

Nuts (Dry Roasted or Seasoned)
May be prepared with seasoning mixture containing wheat flour or wheat starch, which is not gluten-free. Contact the manufacturer.
Nuts (Corn or Soy) Seasoned
May be prepared with seasoning mixture contianing wheat flour or wheat starch, which is not gluten-free. Contact the manufacturer.

So ... sorry I told you that Dry Roasted nuts were not gluten free. My old dictuonary said they were NOT allowed. Guess some manufacturers are now making some that are gluten free.
Rikki Tikki
Egg shaped peanut butter cups have gluten?
tarnalberry
QUOTE(danikali @ Jan 11 2006, 12:54 PM) *
IN a forum that I posted two days ago, someone told me that ALL dry roasted nuts are contaminated. They did make the point though that not all ROASTED nuts have gluten, but all DRY roasted nuts. What do you think?
Hmmmmmm........ huh.gif



I saw that post, but my experience does not bear it out. Yes, I have seen that the airplane nuts I've been given on southwest (both their own brand and planter's) have had wheat, but I've also seen a number I have purchased in the store not have wheat. the only ingredients in the dry roasted nuts I usually get are nuts/salt/oil. (these have been nuts from Trader Joe's or Diamond's most of the time, as almonds are my favorite nut - though I prefer them raw over roasted.)
skinnyminny
I have heard the dry roasted peanuts are questionable but I eat the planters dry roasted, do those also contain gluten the honey roasted I know contain corn starch and I also eat those does anyone know if the planters are ok I dont wanna continue to eat them if they are not!
watkinson
I'm sorry, sad.gif I should clarify....I didn't mean to say that Snickers snack size is not gluten-free, I said Snickers because it was a candy that I eat all the time. I just meant some candies snack sizes are not gluten-free. I can't even remember which one now. It was Chritmas time a year ago. We got a bag of something snack size and saw in the ingredients that it was not gluten-free. I remember calling the company to make sure and they said we were right. Was it some Christmas Rese's cup or maybe butterfinger? Sorry I can't remember. I just tend to stay away from snack sizes and eat the regular size.

Sorry for the confusion. smile.gif

Wendy
elonwy
Planters are owned by Kraft and as such will list any Wheat Barley Rye or Oats on the label, so sofar so good on those nuts.
Elonwy
mookie03
QUOTE(watkinson @ Jan 12 2006, 11:22 AM) *
I'm sorry, sad.gif I should clarify....I didn't mean to say that Snickers snack size is not gluten-free, I said Snickers because it was a candy that I eat all the time. I just meant some candies snack sizes are not gluten-free. I can't even remember which one now. It was Chritmas time a year ago. We got a bag of something snack size and saw in the ingredients that it was not gluten-free. I remember calling the company to make sure and they said we were right. Was it some Christmas Rese's cup or maybe butterfinger? Sorry I can't remember. I just tend to stay away from snack sizes and eat the regular size.

Sorry for the confusion. smile.gif

Wendy


Thanks Wendy, no worries, just wanted to be sure!!!! one of my professors always keeps a dish of candy in her office and im in there several times a day- she sets the snickers aside for me b/c she knows i like them and can eat them- but i got scared there for a second!!
Katydid
QUOTE(danikali @ Jan 11 2006, 12:09 PM) *
Okay, I recently, as some of you know, found out that I was getting glutened by roasted nuts that I have been eating for the past week! I had no idea and thought that something was really wrong since "I wasn't eating any gluten!" (I def. was!) I went home after I discovered this possible culprit, and all of the nuts that I had were dry roasted!!! The more I thought about it, the same day my symptoms started coming back were the same day I first bought the nuts and ate them!! Sheesh!

Anyway, this is the trickiest hidden gluten product that I can think of. But just to make sure that there are absolutley NO MORE MISTAKES, (at least for one straight month!!! mad.gif ), what are some of the least obvious, most common hidden sources, that you can think of......

I know I am new to this whole thing still, and I may be a little bit naive, but where does the gluten come from, what do they use exactly to dry roast nuts?

Thanks!!! biggrin.gif



I think this one is the strangest I've seen in a while-

If you order an Omelette at IHOP, you will get glutened even if you have it specially prepared in a clean separate pan.

They add pancake batter to their omelettes - they say it makes them fluffier
danikali
Wow! That's a good one...........thanks!

Half of these trigger foods don't even NEED gluten in them......they only make it harder on people like us! WHY WHY WHY???
luvs2eat
Sour cream!

Yep... my newly diagnosed daughter pointed out to me that the sour cream I'd been enjoying had modified food starch! You could have knocked me over with a feather!!

Regular, full fat, doesn't contain MFS, but some brands of the lite sour cream do... go figure!!
kathy1
Twizzlers have gluten in them???
Rae
QUOTE(kathy1 @ Jan 13 2006, 06:42 PM) *
Twizzlers have gluten in them???


Yes i think "wheat flour" to keep them from sticking.
Canadian Karen
I use Planters with no problems.

As for the bite size chocolate bars:

M & M Mars (Master Foods) (http://www.m-ms.com/cai) (800-551-9985) (vp=1-19-04)
In the USA all sizes of the following are gluten-free: Snickers, Snickers Munch, Snickers Almond, Skittles bite size, Starburst, Dove, 3Musketeers, MilkyWay Midnight (all other MilkyWay's are not gluten-free), all M & M’s except Crispy.
M & M Mars will clearly list wheat and barley in the products. The rep said they did not use oats or rye in the candy products.

M&M's (800.551.0702) (vp=09/24/02)
The following are gluten-free: Snickers (except mini's in Canada); Skittles; Starburst; Dove (milk & dark choc); Mars Almond Bar; 3Musketeers; MilkyWay Midnight (all other MilkyWay's are not gluten-free). All mini versions of the above are gluten-free except Snickers in Canada)

So in the U.S., don't worry about the sizes for these bars, but in Canada, don't eat the small Snickers. It's the same with Smarties. Smarties in the U.S. are g/f, but in Canada they contain gluten. WHY???????????
GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

Karen
broncobux
Ya know,

after 8 years, I still haven't figured out why wheat is in regular soy sauce...its not a thickening agent, it doesn't lend a flavor, not a preserative....

Absolutely no reason I can think of why Soy Sauce should have wheat as the second ingredient (its not a big deal, I buy the wheat free stuff)...

Grrrrrrrrrrr......
2Boys4Me
QUOTE(Canadian Karen @ Jan 14 2006, 12:38 PM) *
So in the U.S., don't worry about the sizes for these bars, but in Canada, don't eat the small Snickers. It's the same with Smarties. Smarties in the U.S. are g/f, but in Canada they contain gluten. WHY???????????
GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

Karen


Weird. I was at Walmart picking up some M&M's and looked at the Snickers fun size, because for some reason I thought that NO Snickers in Canada were gluten-free and oddly enough, I couldn't find anything suspicious on the fun size snickers. Of course, it's perfectly possible and even probable, that the second ingredient was wheat flour and I just didn't see it. You know, when you read something over and over and it's not until after you buy it, and you catch it on the label out of the corner of your eye.

And Karen, re: the Smarties. I'm pretty sure the U.S. doesn't have Nestle Smarties. U.S. smarties are Canadian "Rockets". You know the ones I mean? Little circles of sugar wrapped in cellophane. Rockets are gluten-free and M&Ms are superior to smarties anyway, so no loss.

NO! I'm not looking for a debate! M&Ms are better and that's that! (I have to admit, my husband would side with you on the whole smartie/m&m thing unless they are peanut m&m's and then he'd pick the Ms.)
tarnalberry
QUOTE(broncobux @ Jan 14 2006, 01:02 PM) *
Ya know,

after 8 years, I still haven't figured out why wheat is in regular soy sauce...its not a thickening agent, it doesn't lend a flavor, not a preserative....

Absolutely no reason I can think of why Soy Sauce should have wheat as the second ingredient (its not a big deal, I buy the wheat free stuff)...

Grrrrrrrrrrr......


I believe it's part of the fermentation process - a starch source. It's a matter of production.
minibabe
QUOTE(tarnalberry @ Jan 14 2006, 08:07 PM) *
I believe it's part of the fermentation process - a starch source. It's a matter of production.



As far as that goes, I believe that is why celiac's are only supposed to have American wines and not European wines. I believe that our labeling laws are alot stricter then over in Europe. I don know for sure, but I have been told that.

Just a thought dry.gif
teebs in WV
QUOTE(luvs2eat @ Jan 12 2006, 03:09 PM) *
Sour cream!

Yep... my newly diagnosed daughter pointed out to me that the sour cream I'd been enjoying had modified food starch! You could have knocked me over with a feather!!

Regular, full fat, doesn't contain MFS, but some brands of the lite sour cream do... go figure!!



Not all modified food starch contains gluten - but if it doesn't specify, then assume it is not safe. I have read that most of the times in the US if it says modified food starch, it is more than likely derived from corn. But........if it doesn't say specifically, and I cannot verify it, then I don't eat it.



Not all modified food starch contains gluten - but if it doesn't specify, then assume it is not safe. I have read that most of the times in the US if it says modified food starch, it is more than likely derived from corn. But........if it doesn't say specifically, and I cannot verify it, then I don't eat it.
mightymorg
QUOTE(Katydid @ Jan 12 2006, 01:28 PM) *
I think this one is the strangest I've seen in a while-

If you order an Omelette at IHOP, you will get glutened even if you have it specially prepared in a clean separate pan.

They add pancake batter to their omelettes - they say it makes them fluffier


OMG-My boyfriend and I almost ate at IHOP tonight, and if we were, I was going to have an omelette....thank goodness we played it cheap and ate at home!! ohmy.gif
minibabe
QUOTE(mookie03 @ Jan 11 2006, 07:36 PM) *
westsoy soymilk

candies (like see's)

chicken broth

frozen foods, like veggie burgers (most brands)

dry roasted nuts (they give them out on an airplane!)

candy corn (some brands)

certain cheeses, meats (like deli)

basically any food that it seems like wouldnt need gluten for any purposes... I mean if it can taste just as good w/o the gluten, why put it in?!

I'm confused about the snickers thing though- i thought the fun size were gluten-free in US?? Am i wrong? And what about the minis? great topic by the way- interesting and so useful!!!




When my mom goes food shopping and walks past the deli counter the personnell usually run away dry.gif ( that was the first couple of times anyway). Anytime we order lunch meat the slicer had to be cleaned, they used to get so mad at us, I kind of felt guilty. But now they know us and they keep a dedicated food allergy slicer for us. It is great, I believe that they do cut lettuce on it in the morning, but hey its still gluten-free biggrin.gif

Brachs candy corn does contain gluten but I believe that one of the cheaper brands does not. I tryed it this past Halloween and it def. tasted really different. I wonder what gluten does to canycorn that makes it so good. dry.gif

Amanda NY
Nantzie
I'm going to say it yet again on this thread --

TWIZZLERS?!?!!???!?!?!?!????

Why, for the love of all that is holy would they do that?

Cornstarch people! Cornstarch! Cornstarch will keep things from sticking too!

And Pancake batter in the freaking omellettes?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nancy
Felidae
QUOTE(minibabe @ Jan 14 2006, 09:03 PM) *
As far as that goes, I believe that is why celiac's are only supposed to have American wines and not European wines. I believe that our labeling laws are alot stricter then over in Europe. I don know for sure, but I have been told that.

Just a thought dry.gif


I drink European wines quite often and I have not had a problem. I am very sensitive too.
minibabe
Oh thats cool, what brand? I would love to be able to have a broader selection. smile.gif


Amanda NY
rubylou
QUOTE (Jnkmnky @ Jan 11 2006, 06:45 PM) *
Yes, Nathan's.... I hate Nathan's. What the &%&^* do they need wheat in Hot Dogs for??? Killed my laid back attitude towards bbqs in the summer. We had a Bon fire a few weeks ago, and my friend brought those freaking Nathan's. I was like, "WHOA!"... Keep 'em offa the grill till my kid gets a Boar's Head hot dog done up. Just really burns me up. dry.gif


Ok...lemme get this straight....Nathans bad......are ballpark hotdogs ok? Oh....and, soy sauce, what brands are gluten free, and do I have to special order them? I'm new at this. I'm having trouble with trusting salad dressings also, if someone comes across a yummy ranch dressing, please let me know. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY IS SALAD DRESSING GLUTENED? Can't a girl get a break?
jkmunchkin
QUOTE (rubylou @ Jan 14 2008, 01:14 AM) *
Ok...lemme get this straight....Nathans bad......are ballpark hotdogs ok? Oh....and, soy sauce, what brands are gluten free, and do I have to special order them? I'm new at this. I'm having trouble with trusting salad dressings also, if someone comes across a yummy ranch dressing, please let me know. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY IS SALAD DRESSING GLUTENED? Can't a girl get a break?


As far as I know, Nathan's is the only hotdog that has wheat. For soy sauce I would say most of us use San-J Wheat Free Tamari. You can find it at any supermarket, but it may be in the organic isle rather than where the other soy sauces are. I know La Choy is also gluten-free, but most people tend not to like that.

For salad dressings, I really like Marie's parmesan ranch and creamy italian garlic. I recently had Ken's buttermilk ranch which I really liked. Although my favorite ranch dressing is the one at Outback smile.gif
buffettbride
QUOTE (watkinson @ Jan 11 2006, 11:56 AM) *
gluten-free candy that you eat all the time, like Snickers, but the snack size is not gluten-free.


Actually, snack size Snickers ARE gluten-free. My DD eats them all the time. It's the snack/fun size Hershey bars that are not gluten free.

But I agree, the snack size thing is a booger.

The most annoying non-gluten-free foods on the entire planet for me are Kellogg's cereal. There does not NEED to be barley malt in EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN' ONE!

Twizzlers have wheat for elasticity, not just thickening. Either way, it's stooooopid.
buffettbride
QUOTE (rubylou @ Jan 13 2008, 11:14 PM) *
Ok...lemme get this straight....Nathans bad......are ballpark hotdogs ok? Oh....and, soy sauce, what brands are gluten free, and do I have to special order them? I'm new at this. I'm having trouble with trusting salad dressings also, if someone comes across a yummy ranch dressing, please let me know. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY IS SALAD DRESSING GLUTENED? Can't a girl get a break?


Soy sauce - La Choy (although some don't like it). Kroger brand is also.

Salad Dressing - Kraft will label any gluten so find a Kraft brand you like. Also, Annie's makes salad dressing that is gluten-free and will be marked on the label (not all are gluten-free so you have to check on the back).

We make the Hidden Valley Ranch packets for ranch dip and dressing. It has MSG though, so it's not like it's GOOD for you or anything. rolleyes.gif


luvthelake21
I have seen wheat in charcoal. Wheat is in some flavors of ice cream.
home_based_mom
QUOTE (luvthelake21 @ Jan 20 2008, 11:39 PM) *
I have seen wheat in charcoal. Wheat is in some flavors of ice cream.


ohmy.gif Charcoal? ohmy.gif


I don't even see an ingredient list! Do you know which brands? ACK!
luvthelake21
I do not know what brands have wheat in charcoal because now I use a gas grill. I had read on this forum a lady was getting sick every time she grilled a steak. So some asked her if she used charcoal and she said yes. I have looked at some charcoal bags in the past and I have seen wheat in it. If we use charcoal now we use lump coal not the briquets(sp)
darlindeb25
I was in a Vitamin Shoppe looking for probiotic's yesterday and found Kyo-Dophilus brand. There are several varieties to choose from, one which I had to read 4 times, and still walked away shaking my head. I decided to buy a totally different brand altogether. This is what I found on one of the bottles of Kyo-Dophilus, in the ingredients:

QUOTE
OTHER INGREDIENTS:
Gelatin, Cornstarch, Dextrin, Calcium Carbonate, Silica and Magnesium Stearate.

Contains trace amounts of wheat and soy.

FREE OF: Preservatives, Sugar, Sodium, Milk, Yeast, Gluten, Artificial Colors or Flavors.


Now, explain to me, how can this product be free of gluten, yet still contain trace amounts of wheat??? I decided I can not trust this company with this kind of statement.

Here is the product on their website: http://www.kyolic.com/html/products/probio...odopenzymes.htm
Aves
Oh, I love this forum! I was just about to post this question, and here you all are already discussing it.

I've been snacking on Walgreens Mediterranean nut mix and getting sick.

Ingredients: Walnuts, almonds, pistachios, hazelnuts, penaut oil and/or soybean oil, salt.
Processed on shared equipment with peanut and nut containing products.

Who'da thunk?!

QUOTE (tarnalberry @ Jan 11 2006, 11:09 AM) *
interesting... all the dry roasted nuts I have had have been gluten-free. have you checked with the company on the issue?

Cath4k
The sneakiest and worst offenders for us have been:

1. Products that are labeled gluten-free, but are not either because of the PPM they allow or because of cross contamination.

2. Any freakin' item that has been run on the same line as a gluten product for processing or packaging. One organic juice company I was talking to was explaining that they do wash their lines well in between runs and they can really wash because they are liquid runs. She said dry run processing usually only blows off the lines, rather than a thorough wet wash between runs. Ug.

We are hyper-sensitive to even the smallest amounts of gluten and have been contaminated way too much!

Cathy


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