I've had trouble finding my pace lately. Even when I run with a team member who is at a comfortable pace, I feel exhausted. My throat also burns, no matter how hydrated I am. Please help!!!!

Thank you,

Hey Jill.

This thread may help you.

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2173

Think it covers a few things for athletes, the energy issue is one of them!

I'd love to have actual advice, but errmm.. haven't felt healthy enough to run for a long time now, lol. So look on the bright side.. you are running! =D

Just a guess - maybe not enough carbohydrates. All my favorite carbs were wheat. Also a friend in my running club had some of the same feelings when he was on the Atkins diet.

Hi - I was recently diagnosed with celiacs & have just started the gluten-free diet. I'm also a marathon runner (and anemic). I find that I'm ok with long, moderately paced runs, but that hills & short, fast runs are really tough. I think that if you just keep up with the running, eventually you'll start feeling better.

I have a question and a comment... First the comment - I contacted the Balance Bar people, who told me that many of their products do not contain any gluten, per se. They are, however, produced in a facility where wheat products are processed as well. I figure that this is probably ok (am I correct? I don't feel bad when I eat them certainly...). Also, I go on travel a lot for work & was wondering if it's better to stick religiously to the gluten-free diet or to "cheat" if it's between that and going hungry. Any comments?

Thanks.

Definitely better to stick to the diet religiously than to cheat.......NEVER cheat......even a few crumbs could throw your intestines off for weeks, regardless of whether you feel it or not. I run a bit, but not enough to consider myself qualified for this topic. I've found that my only problem is that after starting the diet, I tried not to run so maybe I'd have an easier time gaining weight and now I need to rebuild everything so I can get back my endurance.

I've had some "bar type food" that had no gluten in the ingredients, but was made in a facility that processes wheat, and did get sick. I think the key here is that "results will be very UNpredictable". Maybe one day they were running a bunch of the gluten-free flavors, maybe another day they didn't. Maybe one day they were running gluten-free and non-gluten-free flavors side by side, maybe one day they didn't. Maybe someone dropped a bag of flour near the ingredients for the non-gluten-free bar, maybe there was some extra wind in the factory, maybe the non-gluten-free bars were extra wet and picked up the flour more easily. It's just too many variables. I tend to avoid those types of products, 'cause I already got sick from one.

I travel for work a lot too (and let me tell you, Ft. Wayne is NOT very gluten-free-friendly ;-) ), but it is vital that you do NOT cheat. Getting sick on a business trip is never fun (and I don't get very sick either), and if you become more sensitize the gluten the longer you're on the diet, you'll not be able to completely predict your reaction through the years.

Plan ahead and find out what grocery stores and restaurants are in the area that can accomodate you, and make and pack your own snack food. If staying overnight, find residence-inn-type places that have kitchens so you can do some basic cooking on your own. And did I mention brining plenty of your own snack food/lunch food with you? (This is vital for those plane trips!)

Balance Bars do have gluten in them.

2 flavors of Geni Soy bars are gluten free - the choc penut and the yogurt penut.
I believe that all low carb genisoy bars are gluten-free. BUt Geni soy will send you a NICE PPT slide with all of the gluten free products if you email them. The regular geni soy bars are high in processed sugar.

Think Thin makes a lot of bars that the low carb and gluten free. But manitol (sugar alcohol) can cause havic to your stomach too.

There are some vegitarian bars on the market that are gluten-free and I believe that the Laura Bar is gluten-free too (based on ingredients) - but I have not contacted them yet.

Gu, Hammer Gel, Ultima, and GU H2O are gluten-free

the amemia will make you tired -- so get to the bottom of that first - go see a hemotologist:) - the amemia is causing you to be exhausted during running. Remember that iron is life - it carried O2 to your muscles. Without iron we will all be dead. I can promise you that if you get out of the anemic stage then you will feel 100% better. It is like NIGHT AND DAY. You will have more energy all day long and during running.

LB

Lara Bars are gluten-free. Says so on the bars and are now made in a gluten-free plant.

Many Balance Bars are gluten free. I called the company and they were bought out by Kraft 1-2 years ago. Kraft has a pretty strict cleaning process they go through for their equipment (I used to do research on industrial lubrications...now that is an exciting topic...*cough*) Anyway, knowing what I do about them, I feel pretty comfortable eating something from them even if it's made where gluten filled items are also made. But, because they have a full disclosure policy, they mention that the processing is in the same places on the label.

Anyway, I use the Balance bars fairly often and my highschooler has them all the time (he keeps one with him so if he's somewhere and starved, which he is 90% of the time, he can have something without having to worry.) So far, neither of us has had a problem with them. I suppose we might at some point, but then, the last time I had a reaction was from cheese, of all things (getting complacent ) I react fairly quickly (within 30 minutes I'm omw to having a killer headache or just a migraine.)

That said...all my kids (and I) really like the Genisoy, Extreme, PB bar best of all we've had. Better than the regular Genisoy PB one, even. I just haven't been able to find where I can buy it by the case yet (and without tons of added shipping charges.)

Oh! I also want to thank you all for posting other types of gluten-free bars! Variety is so nice.

Hi All,

Thanks for all the info! Yeah!--Celiac Athletes! I'm a road cyclist, I'm not a runner, but both are endurance sports. I've run into the same problem, Jill, with maintaining my energy. I've found that if I drink a watered down gluten-free sports drink (w/o refined sugars) throughout my rides (every 10 mins. +/-) that I can maintain my energy levels better (I used to do the watered down gluten-free sports drink just towards the ends of rides). I also found a fruit bar that I eat on long rides, they are pear bars made by Gorge Delights out of Oregon (potassium and no refined sugars). I've had trouble with a lot of the energy bars, even if they are gluten free, I just can't eat them on a ride, they upset my stomach. The fruit bars work for me though. I eat my rice, gluten-free breads, or wild rice before my rides.

I agree that iron can also be a problem. Generally I can get away with just a multivitamin with iron. But I donated blood awhile ago and it really wiped me out, a nurse recommended time-release iron supplements at night with orange juice.

Jill, and other athletes: Are you always hungry? I've passed that "empty gut feeling" stage of healing, but lately I'm so hungry!!!!!!!!!! I'm at a pretty stable weight, just hungry.

Take Care!

veggf and friends,

So nice to see one of my older posts getting some feedback! Thank you!!!


I've been steadily improving since August. I had been so ill during the preceding months that I couldn't start conditioning for cross country until two weeks before I returned to college.

I have been doing everything properly for running and the gluten-free diet (hydration, gluten sleuthing, etc). I feel that I've been running slower, but I guess that my pace will improve as time passes

I eat the two flavors of gluten-free genisoy bars. Some Atkins bars are also gluten-free. Despite being for people on a diet, they have a good amount of fat and protein, I believe, and I don't think there's too much sugar.

I was an avid runner prior to falling very ill..diagnosed just over a year ago with gluten intolerance. I'm finally feeling ready to run again but am concerned about keeping my weight on. What do you runners eat to load up on carbs?

sweet potatoes, brown rice, and beans....pinto, black, fat free refried, gluten-free waffles, P&J on rice bread

I like gluten-free rice cereal with soy milk, gluten-free Pantry's Fav. Sandwich Bread, rice cakes (Lundgren's) with either hummus or PB&J, gluten-free pasta, gluten-free rice pilafs, and wild rice.

Hope this helps.

Hello,

I know these last posts are a bit old but I was so happy to come across them!

I am new to the forum all together so I am still working my way around the entire website.

I have not officially been dx'd with Celiac. I had been told I have IBS (mainly with constipation, although the other occurs during runninig) and also had my gallbladder out about five weeks ago. My symptoms seemed to have started about 5 years ago, a year after having a baby and going through an awful divorce, and had really gotten unbearable the last 2 years or so. So finally after seeing 3 docs, getting the work-up, the gallbladder out, still felt like an inflated balloon 9 days after surgery. So to make long story short I changed my diet to wheat free, felt WAY better, then gluten free and what a difference!!! So in my mind, don't care what docs think anymore, I'm either just gluten intolerant or possible CE. Haven't felt this good in three or more years!

I normally run about 45 miles a week. I had low hemaglobin (iron) levels in the past which I related to running and pretty much being vegetarian. I lived on oatmeal and whole wheat pita bread, Hello! Anyway I had started to really struggle with a 2 mile run, which I could normally do 8 no problem. I figured out it was my iron and started taking iron supplement once a day (took three times a day when pregnant) along with a multi w/iron. Within a few weeks I felt back to normal and even stronger so I kept taking the iron. Well a few months back when I went to GI doc #3 he told me to stop it (causes constipation) and wanted a true read of my iron levels after a week being off. I was reluctant but did it because I couldn't deal with the tummy troubles anymore. Well my iron was fine (but I was only off a week!) and then I just returned to taking the multi. Now the past few weeks that feeling of I'm working ten times harder at a slower pace has started to happen. So I started the iron pills again a few days ago. It's so funny it seems to happen overnight. I think it may be due to being off the iron as well as my diet change. In the past when I was on gluten it may have been that I was not absorbing iron. Not that I'm eating all these gluten-free grains that aren't fortified I think this is exacerbating the problem. So after all this background info my question is this: Does anyone with CE and especially those who are runners/athletes take iron supplements? Are they necessarily gluten-free? I take the CVS brand. Also are there any iron fortified gluten-free cereals or breads? I really beleive the poor performance is related to this problem. Runners in particular are at risk for "runner's anemia". Any help much appreciated!

Hi -

I run ~80 miles per week and have had problems with anemia in the past. I have been taking "SlowFE" for the past year or so & haven't had any iron deficiency problems since then.

Good luck!

I have been better since taking the iron again too. I take the same strength you do but I use the CVS brand. The Novartis brand has sorbitol in it which doesn't agree with me. I'm not sure if the iron is upsetting my stomach a little or maybe some hidden gluten somewhere. When I went off the iron for a few days (after starting them again from when the doc told me to stop) my stomach wasn't any better.

Thanks for replying. You really run alot! I thought I was a nut! Do you run twice a day?

Usually I just run once a day - typically 10 miles on weekdays and 15+ miles on weekend days.

I run a lot of miles, but at low-moderate intensity...

It's so hard to figure out what upsets the stomach. Before the celiac diagnosis, I just thought that I had the "Runner's Runs" all the time. The SlowFe doesn't seem to upset my stomach at all, though. Just curious, do you drink coffee? I'm totally addicted, but I think that it might upset my stomach a bit.

Yes I'm a coffee addict too. It doesn't bother me in the morning but sometimes if I drink in afternoon.

I also thought I had runners trots, which I still have. I run on treadmill near the bathroom mostly.

I have a few training related questions for you. Are you a male or female? What kind of pace is low-moderate intensity? Why so many miles? Do you run marathons. May I also ask your age?

The reason I ask is because ever since I had my gallbladder out 3 months ago I have been going back and forth with how I feel when running. I am a woman who will be 39 on Monday! Is my age a factor yet? I typically run about 9 miles 5 days a week and it takes me roughly 65 minutes on treadmill, a bit longer outside. I started running when I was 23 so it's been nearly 16 years. Do you think my body is trying to tell me something? Maybe I should slow down a bit and just run a little longer? Maybe I just need to finally give in to the fact I'm getting a little older. NOT old, just a little older. Do you think if I slow my pace a bit but maintain the mileage I will be able to maintain my weight? Actually right now I feel like I want to lose a couple of pounds but I know that I'm just bloated! ugh I hate that!

I do know that I definately need my iron.

Also if you're a woman are you having periods? Somehow I think with your mileage you're probably a guy right?

Hi -

I am a female runner age 35. I run a lot of miles because I don't particularly like running fast & I don't get the "endorphin" effect if I run shorter distances (at the same pace, anyway). I typically run 8.5 min miles for my training runs. I do run marathons & have just started trying ultras (longest so far is 34 miles).

I have just started (after being on the gluten free diet for a little over a year) gaining the weight I need to get my hormone levels regular... Still have a few pounds to go. I have to eat almost continuously (it seems) to even maintain my weight while running as much as I do.

What time of day do you usually run? I try to get out before work in the morning (although this is when I have the most problems with "the runs"), but - especially in the winter - sometimes go run on the treadmill at the gym after work instead.

9 miles in 65 min, huh? I sometimes run that fast, but not too often. My best marathon time is 3:16 (7:30 min/mile pace). If you have the time, you might try going longer and slower and seeing how you feel.

Hi - the conversation has shifted a bit, but thought I could add one more powerbar suggestion.

All the GLUCERNA bars are gluten free. Because they are made for diabetics they don't cause the same sugar spike I have had with other bars. Small, yummy, and relatively inexpensive too!

Hi,

I'm new to this forum. I am a 37 yr old Celiac competitive cyclist (Mountain Bike, Road, Track and Cyclocross) who also runs for cross training. I have recently started using this Vegan meal replacement and Energy bar as a supplement. I find it works well.

It may only be available in Canada though. May want to contact the company if interested.

www.myvega.com

Mike

I run 3 to 4 times a week on my treadmill. I strap 3 pound weights to my ankles, and run with a slight incline on the treadmill the whole time. I go about 3 miles. Afterwards I get on the eliptical (sp) for about 20 minutes with the most resistance and speed I can do. I have worked myself up to this slowly over the last year.
I suffered terribly from fibromyalgia and peripheral neuropothy (numbness and tingling in hands and feet). I have been gluten-free for almost 2 years and in that time all symptoms except those 2 have completely gone away. The fibro and PN are much better but my legs still feel like they are filled with boiling cement sometimes making it extremely painful to run. It is slowly getting better as I get stronger and stronger. I take 2 sublingual B-vitamoms every day along with 2 multi vitamins and 2 omega 3 tabs. I make sure I get enough calcium, magnesium, and potassium. And stick religiously, absolutely to being gluten-free. Even a small mistake and I feel terribly achey, and exhausted for several weeks. I also get the dry mouth and throat thing you were talking about.

Maybe you need more iron (red meat). When I travel I always stick strickly gluten-free. I find that there is always something I can eat. We travel a lot and I have never had a problem. Most restaurants can make you a steak, a hamburger, or a piece of fish easily. just ask for plain, no seasonings, and cooked in a fresh pan.

Stick with protein bars that you KNOW for sure are gluten-free. If not, try a snickers, or some trail mix that you make yourself. COSTCO has an fabulous one that is gluten-free.

Good luck, Wendy

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Hi there,

Am a fitness instructor, I teach about 3 hours of cardio per day, and run about 25 miles per week also (the running is for my own head-clearing time - the teaching I do for others, plus am a bit addicted to adrenaline and endorphins).

For energy (given I don't eat processed carbs anymore - just carbs from fruits and veggies) I make sure my B-vitamins are high - through injections, but my iron I get through Floradix at the health food store. Iron pills just wreak havoc on my digestive system, whereas Floradix is made from concentrated prune and flower extracts and is highly and easily absorbable. (Plus it tastes good!) And the company that makes it certifies their products are gluten-free.

And I eat about 3,000 calories per day by grazing all day - I don't really have meals, I just constantly eat small portions. I find eating more protein helps keep my energy constant - but I do struggle to keep my weight on.

This may seem banal, but I find that if I skimp even a little on my sleep at night, my training suffers. So sleep and hydration are secret energy and endurance zappers that I pay close attention to, as much nutrition.

Hope this helps....

The others here have some great information with regard to nutrition, so I will not try to compete with that. Sometime, IMO, you just have to get out and exercise. You may need to force yourself to do something. Exercise will increase energy. Combine that fact with the new nutrional advice found here and you could be on your way to improved energy. Good luck to you.

My main passion is mountaineering, but I run several times a week as cross-training. I do at least one session of high intensity intervals and then some medium distance runs. I've been gluten free and completely grain free (no corn or rice either) for 3 months now. My carbs come entirely from fruits and veggies. I was really surprised that my energy increased even though I'm not eating very many carbs. I've noticed that my stamina has increased - I wasn't tired after 12 miles of rough off trail hiking on Sat. My running pace has actually decreased by 30 seconds per mile over the past 3 months and I'll be running a 5 K race in two weeks. Maybe it's the increased absorption of nutrients that has helped.

jill i have the same problem since cutting out my usual carbs ive foung it really hard trane it doesn t help that im also lactose intolerant too so i feel like its dragging me down, i went to the gym today and couldnt get much faster than 10kph on the treadmil which was soul destroying when youve trained for the marathon and managed to get up tp speed 14.4 kph on a hill, it was a real bite in the bum as a lot of the girls were in the gym today all haveing a good look at me struggling along, what got me to leave was when a girl got on the tread next to me ( who i would normally out run) and ran faster than me i got really tearfull, souds stupid i know but being gluten intolerant hasnt taken away my competative streak. I came away from the gym thinking i was a total B as it wasnt her fault i couldnt run it was mine. Im wondering if lucozade tabs would be ok to suck on just b4 i start to trane?

Hello,
I am somewhat new to running, although I have been running for the past 6 months or so. Right now I am doing a 10K training clinic and although I do not feel too out of shape and I know I don't look too out of shape (not that it really matters, but still), I am a BACK OF THE PACK runner. I run 4 times a week and I walk about an hour to and from the clinic location before I run (4 times a week), but I cannot seem to get anymore energy to run faster. Even folks who come out to train with us once or twice, who have never run before can run faster than I can.
I was feeling so discouraged until I read this thread. Now I'm thinking there might be something to this. I will definitely try to be more diligent about taking my vitamins. I also take the Floradix supplement, but have to admit that I get lazy from time to time. No more!

In my case it is the opposite!

Actually I'm not a runner-- used to be but my knees won't allow it anymore. I was never super-fast but I did run 6 miles 3-4xweek religiously for years, & loved it for the physical & mental boost it gave me.

Now I use the elliptical trainer, which is not the same but still gives me a little of the old runner's rush... I give it my all for an hour, & keep track of how far I've "run".

Here's the thing-- since going gluten-free, I'm going faster & faster! I had hit a wall with my times & was just barely staying in one place until I went gluten-free & now it seems I have one pb after another! It's actually one of the most noticeable effects of going gluten-free in my case.

I've gained 10 lbs. & I think this may be part of it since I'm probably gaining some muscle. But I'm betting what is really making the difference is that iron is finally making it from my belly to my blood. I've been anemic practically forever. Haven't been tested since gluten-free, but I'm betting that's why I don't get so out-of-breath.

Has anyone else had this experience, & do you know if it is related to iron?

Leah

I had the same thing happen after I went gluten free, but I think it was a combination of a few things. Your body is absorbing more iron, but you're also able to use all the nutrients and energy from the foods you're eating. Iron deficiancy will definetely make you tired though! The first 6 months I was gluten free I CRAVED iron-rich foods all the time-I used to eat a couple Hershey bars during my bike rides
Nadia

Hm, I hadn't thought of it quite that way, but it makes perfect sense. Whatever it is, it's a nice surprise to be getting faster at my age! In some ways gluten-free (for a Celiac at least) is almost like a fountain of youth!

ive had the same prob, im almost weazing and it sounds like im haveing an ashama attack( im not). things have been better in the last 2-3 months and my energy has increased and my breathing, im\ not only back to normal now but have got better the balance of proper carbs and not suger for energy was a major issue for me which took ages to work through but finallly didit and was worth the effort